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Here is your opportunity to discuss councillor Russell's motion to allow citizens input on future building by way of a plebiscite during this fall's civic election. (Details on today's front page.) Is it time to tell Brodhead, Heron and Osborne to stuff their arrogant attitudes?
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I compare Broadhead, Osbourne & Heron to three light bulbs, that is burnt out and must be replaced, in particular Heron. Remember she was the one that pushed for the city to obtain a franchise (Starbucks) at Service Place. The cost of a franchise as well as $800,000. spread over 10 years to have an individual move his business so that the Starbucks location could be located in this spot - this is using tax payers money for practicing stupidity The question still arise now and then, and that is, Should a city run a commercial business and compete with the private sector.  It shows that she is  a rubber ball that doesn't bounce................ 
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I have to wonder whether Heron will still be driving her kids/grandkids to hockey practice early in the a.m., long after Starbucks is finally paid off?
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Let me see now,  at 1:05 PM we see whereby the three burnt out light bulbs have "AMASSED" four votes.  Could it now just by chance be where the three voted for each other as well as themselves and further maybe, just maybe talked CROUSE coming on as the 4th vote for them.  Just wondering.
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The people are always right it's time for more public input in the process.I am quite frankly tired of going to public meetings whereby most people getting involved in city public hearings don't support a project such as the 4 million dollar road to nowhere and council proceeds to approve it against good common practical money sense.Plebiscite all the way Bob Russell.Two thumbs up👍👍
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I concur with Mark. I attended several public hearings, where it was obvious that we were just "going through the motions", and the outcome was a done-deal.

The francophone school placement on Eldorado was opposed by the majority of area residents, but it went ahead and now we're all dealing with the traffic repercussions - which were pointed out, but downplayed. We'll see if the Traffic Committee comes up with (and more importantly - is allowed to) implement any significant changes.

The vast majority of Braeside residents oppose the proposed land-swap and development, but the writing is on the wall there too. I don't think it ever occurs to council to say no to a developer.

I know that we elect council to make decisions for us, and that plebiscites for every decision are going to be a waste of time and money, but when our elected officials refuse to hear or acknowledge the public's will, then what?
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I remember Heron's comment on the Erin Ridge school...."It will be good for them."  The gang of 4 do not listen to the taxpayer because they are soooooo much smarter than us? NO, they are delusional in thinking that. Actually there are thousands in SA who are way
more intelligent.

When Heron was whining and showing" over the top" concern at a council meeting about council remuneration and per diems, it was laughable. Here is a person who certainly enjoys spending our tax dollars on one hand but wants to squeeze more tax dollars for herself out of taxpayers.

Then we have Osborne who presented an argument near the beginning of his term for more remuneration.

Suggestion...go and find a job that will pay you what you think you are worth.

These councillors are NOT for the taxpayer but for their own self interests. If they were for the citizens of St Albert, they would LISTEN and make decisions that were in the taxpayers best interests.
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Reading today's Gazette and in particular the expense accounts of St. Albert city Council makes one's head spin when you rerad the totals for the four burnt out light bulbs and in particular Heron - it even exceeds Russell, Hughes, MacKay's expenses combined and more than doubled. What did the city gain by her expenses............
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I was going to make a seperate subject but ...

Per Diem be damned.

If these numbers don't tell you that those 4 with the highest amounts should not be re-elected than it should at least tell you that belonging and participating in either CRB, AUMA etc should be curtailed.

Mayor Nolan :       $21,507.22
Coun. Heron:       $22,190.26
Coun. Osborne:    $11,282.32
Coun. Broadhead: $10,765.90
Coun. Mackay:      $ 6,047.54
Coun. Hughes:     $ 1,896.41
Coun. Russell:      $ 1,355,84


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I was going to make a seperate subject but ...

Per Diem be damned.

If these numbers don't tell you that those 4 with the highest amounts should not be re-elected than it should at least tell you that belonging and participating in either CRB, AUMA etc should be curtailed.

Mayor Nolan :       $21,507.22
Coun. Heron:       $22,190.26
Coun. Osborne:    $11,282.32
Coun. Broadhead: $10,765.90
Coun. Mackay:      $ 6,047.54
Coun. Hughes:     $ 1,896.41
Coun. Russell:      $ 1,355,84




So the stated fact in the article that states the city is reimbursed for the claimed expenses of AUMA or CRB (with the city making money from some of it). I guess the fact that some councillors actually go places and do things to represent the city is something you don't want happening. You are aware that being involved with organizations, events and committees enable growth and knowledge of individuals.

You did read the part of the article that shows that the city actually makes money as a result of our current reimbursement policy. This article should make you question and investigate, but no, you instantly attack with no real knowledge or facts.

Interestingly enough though, one could possibly interpret having the lowest expense accounts as telling me you are doing nothing and going nowhere.

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So we can look at this a different way. We know that Sheena Hughes is a fiscal hawk. She probably evaluates the meeting as to weather there is valuable information to be gained. Then we have Heron who attends umpteen extra meetings..... maybe some are valuable and maybe some are not. The big concern about per diems being taken away was displayed by her tiny outburst and her concern about making enough money for her to live on. Does she attend some meetings in order to pad her salary?? Are some of these meetings really necessary? Just because you attend every meeting in the world does not mean you are a go somewhere do something councillor. As Far I am concerned Sheena Hughes works for all St Albertans whereas Heron and her gang of 3 work for special interest groups. Just look at Erin Ridge and now Braeside.
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Heron sure sounded defensive in the Gazette today.

I'm sure she is in campaign mode right now and this LARGE expense report sure doesn't look good!
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Kevin said in part: " You are aware that being involved with organizations, events and committees enable growth and knowledge of individuals."

O.K. .... let's see what Cathy learns on her many per diem journeys.

She goes to a conference in Vancouver and comes back with the idea that we should all have chickens in the back yard

She goes to a conference and hears some radical leftwing speaker and comes back with "individualism is a disease" idea which she tries to sell to the City.

She goes to a CRB meeting and comes back with the idea that increased densification in existing neighbourhoods is a good idea.

Goes to a CRB related meeting and comes back with the idea that we should merge our commuter buses with the Ed. transit system so that St. Albert would be stuck with the costly local bus routes that hardly anyone uses and Edmonton would get the buses that are heavily utilized by commuters.

Possibly we could save the City, the taxpayers, and the residents a bunch of grief and expense by asking Kathy to stay home..

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She goes to a conference and hears some radical leftwing speaker and comes back with "individualism is a disease" idea which she tries to sell to the City.
Exactly which conference was this? What did it have to do with council? 

Post edited to remove unnecessary comment. - HH

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So the stated fact in the article that states the city is reimbursed for the claimed expenses of AUMA or CRB (with the city making money from some of it). I guess the fact that some councillors actually go places and do things to represent the city is something you don't want happening. You are aware that being involved with organizations, events and committees enable growth and knowledge of individuals. You did read the part of the article that shows that the city actually makes money as a result of our current reimbursement policy. This article should make you question and investigate, but no, you instantly attack with no real knowledge or facts. Interestingly enough though, one could possibly interpret having the lowest expense accounts as telling me you are doing nothing and going nowhere.


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