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New Alberta climate-change plan includes carbon tax for individual Albertans, cap on oilsands emissions

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Wow, $320 extra on your heating bill next year and $480 in 2017. Plus 4.7 cents/litre on gasoline.

http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/edmonton/alberta-climate-change-newser-1.3330153
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Wow, $320 extra on your heating bill next year and $480 in 2017. Plus 4.7 cents/litre on gasoline.

http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/edmonton/alberta-climate-change-newser-1.3330153


Just a quick correction Don, none of the measures will be implemented until 2017.  Not that this makes it any easier... But $320 a year in 2017 and $480 in 2018.
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Thanks for the info Dana, I must have read the early reports wrong or CBC had it incorrect as the feed was updated. Either way it is hitting below the belt when heating in a winter country is attacked.
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So depressing! I'm so disappointed this is the government controlling this province for 3 more years!
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All this stupidity by the NDP Will reduce global warming by 0.00%.   But it will hurt all Albertans.  If you voted NDP, thanks for nothing.    The Alberta Party and Alberta Liberal Party support this plan, try and remember that next election.
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The truth about fighting "climate change" is . . . . money. And left governments are obviously embracing this religion. Just wait till JT has his say.

As for those that embraced the rise in minimum wage - did you really think the NDP was going to let you keep that? And do you really think that JT will allow the middle class to enjoy the promised lower taxes?

For those who know their history, you'll know this is a repeated attempt of control on every individual - only on a much grander scale.

I'm glad I'm not a kid growing up in today's insanity.

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@Galt  RE: "I'm glad I'm not a kid growing up in today's insanity."

I'm afraid to be retiring soon into this insanity! 
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Well, you've all probably heard that the Notely government is intent on killing not only the family farm, but a culture, a rural sense of community, as well as family life. Even if you're an urbanite - and eat - especially if you eat locally, this will affect you too in terms of price, availability and quality of food. How much lower can a government go when it decides to attack people's lives and food sources?

Members of this forum know what it's like to have a government ride roughshod over the electorate when it comes to life's necessities(i.e. water).

Please take the time to support Alberta's farmers and families and check out the following site:
http://www.therebel.media/savealbertafarms

The more signatures they can garner, the better. And if you do support ALBERTA farmers and their families and your right to local food, please send the url to others.


UN tenet (Codex Alimentarius):
He who controls the food and water, controls the people.
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Now, I'm not a farmer, so I certainly don't know about that way of life...but I thought I read that Alberta is the ONLY province that doesn't have any regulations for farm safety. So what exactly is all the fuss about now that we're finally catching up to the rest of the country?

http://edmontonjournal.com/news/local-news/notley-clarifies-bill-6-support-for-family-farms

http://edmontonjournal.com/opinion/columnists/graham-thomson-albertas-farm-workers-finally-given-protection
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If you are contemplating bringing in a series of farm safety regulations, one would think that the obvious question would be this:  “will these regulations produce any significant results?”  If Alberta is “lagging behind” and doesn’t have the regulations of other provinces, the question arises: “ So how do Alberta’s farm fatality rates compare with those of other provinces?”

“Alberta is in the middle of the pack,” says Don Voaklander, Ph.D., director of the Alberta Centre for Injury Control and Research in Edmonton and a collaborator on the study. “In Alberta, we typically run between 13 and 17 fatalities a year.”  In other words, all these Regulations by the Governments of other Provinces didn’t do anything for farm safety. Their farm safety is no better than ours.

However, if these regulations operate like most other Government Regulations it will favour the big corporate entities while disadvantaging the small operator.  So the end result seems to be this:  we buy into the “farm safety crisis” that special interest groups are promoting so as to ensure they have a cushy job and in a few years we get to bemoan the death of the family farm.  It all makes sense … if you just don’t think about it.

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Many of the small family farms have at least one individual working off the farm in order to support the farm. Add in the expenses the province lies out in Bill 6, they will either collapse many small farms or increase prices to the consumer.

There are many examples of how unions work and frequently they have become a detriment to consumer costs. If consumers are willing to have their costs increase, or if they are willing to have imports (i.e. China) on their table, then supporting their local small family farms is obviously not the way to go.

Ramming Bill 6 through without prior consultation makes it a Bill of those who know nothing about farm life. Make it akin to having government come into each and every urbanite's home and telling the urbanite what they want to see in the home and how they want the urbanite to use it. (Let's not complain when St. Albert's water police comes to your home.)

Corporate farms can afford government interference; small family farms can't. "Other provinces have made exemptions for family farms." (Journal)

Government does away with neighbours helping neighbours or family helping, only to incorporate "community" back in via a way that will make government money. (Take a look at what St. Albert does.)

Wildrose critics are right. The NDP government is rushing things without consultation. Why do farmers only get a voice after the fact?
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Never say the voice of the people can't be heard. The provincial government is backing off Bill 6 . . . . for now. From 200 protestors at the legislature on Friday, to roughly 1,000 yesterday makes for someone being wrong somewhere. Pushing a bill through and then finalizing details is doing it a..backwards.

It's surprising that Carlier(Ag. Minister), having grown up in the field, doesn't realize the impact of this bill on small family farms.

And with Wildrose introducing a recall bill, you can be sure that rural ridings would put it to use if their MLA isn't representing them properly.

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Read the funniest response today - don't know if it's true, but....



"Best quote of the day came from a Hutterite that asked a NDP MLA about how this Bill 6 is going to affect calving. The NDP MLA replied "that farmers nee...d to learn to only let the Bulls out during the day so the cows only calve during the day!!!!!!" This is someone that is making decisions for us. WTF!!!"

Sounds about right to me...
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My BIL says that the Trudeau govt has twisted the taxes for business owners - short version from what I understand. If you own a company and pay yourself in dividends (as my BIL does) to put money away for retirement - apparently the tax on the dividends went up from 35% to 48% and you have to pay the tax up front and you have to get in before Jan 1 or you get hit with the higher rate.

Who's left that the NDP hasn't pi$$ed off? They got the oil industry, energy industry the farming operations all up in arms and now the labor union is being a cheerleading team for the NDP. I wonder what the union is going to get for backing the NDP? Who is left to yet be screwed? BTW That's a question, not a challenge.
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In regards to SAP's editorial yesterday "Every Single NDP Policy Taxes Average Albertans" we shouldn't forget that daily government operations are being paid out of borrowed funds which taxpayers will also have to pay for.

Welcome New Debt Payers.
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In regards to SAP's editorial yesterday "Every Single NDP Policy Taxes Average Albertans" we shouldn't forget that daily government operations are being paid out of borrowed funds which taxpayers will also have to pay for. Welcome New Debt Payers.


First, I didn't vote NDP, but lets not forget that the PCs were also planning a 5.5B deficit back in February.  The price of oil continued to decline and I have no doubt that a PC govt deficit would have ballooned to 6B.  

That said, every single policy developed since may has been counterproductive to economic recovery - further exasorbating the financial situation in the province.  

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Here is an interesting looking book:

http://www.amazon.ca/Destroyers-Rachel-Notley-NDPs-Alberta/dp/0995016801/

The Destroyers: Rachel Notley and the NDP’s War on Alberta is essential reading for anyone trying to understand Alberta’s new government. Jam-packed with original research, The Destroyers meticulously documents the radical background of key NDP ministers, MLAs and staff, painting a shocking picture of a group of fringe extremists who were accidentally swept into power in May of 2015, without proper vetting. Notley’s NDP are not here to govern Alberta, or to lead it. They’re here to transform it, to terminate all of the Alberta qualities that they’ve been railing against on picket lines and in protests for decades — its culture of entrepreneurialism, its prosperous oil and gas industry, and its culture of freedom. That’s why the book is called The Destroyers. And that’s why everyone in the province should read this quick, fact-packed book, to make sense of the madness.
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Here is a pdf copy of the book for anyone who might want to read it:

https://d3n8a8pro7vhmx.cloudfront.net/therebel/pages/4022/attachments/original/1453301411/thedestroyers-book.pdf?1453301411
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NDP seeking to muzzle opposing journalists




   I personally find this extremely disturbing. One does not have to agree with Ezra Levant and his colleagues, I believe, to find this extremely worrisome for an elected, supposedly democratic government to do.

  Read it all:

http://www.edmontonsun.com/2016/02/15/ndp-seeking-to-muzzle-opposing-journalists
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Hmm, this is the same Ezra Levant who swore, under oath at his libel trial (where he was found guilty of printing lies and of defamation), that he is NOT a journalist?

http://www.theglobeandmail.com/arts/books-and-media/judge-orders-ezra-levant-to-pay-saskatchewan-lawyer-80000-in-defamation-suit/article21824295/

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Re the present NDP Provincial government  -  interesting when you read a few of the items in the book as mentioned earlier, case in point - It stated that if you wanted to contact Notley's husband who is with one of the labour unions, phoning the number as listed will have you connected to Notley's secretary.  If that is true, this is also disturbing. In a way would that not show that to a certain extent, a provincial union is working out of the Government offices.
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   Well, as I pointed out this is not about Ezra Levant.

  I see nothing in the Globe article about his denial but there is this:

  "At the time of their publication in 2008 and 2009, he was an independent commentator."

  In the Sun article it clearly states who was denied access, one of them  being the author of the book Mr Sinclair refers to in an earlier post.
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I just think you can't have it both ways. You can't deny being a journalist to try and get out of libel charges, and then cry foul when your publication isn't treated like other mainstream media. A number of publications reported on the trial (in 2014), where he insisted he never considered himself a reporter or a journalist. That's apparently what the government is hanging their hat on, rightly or wrongly. Keep in mind, he is the owner of the publication (The Rebel), and he has previously been found guilty of printing lies and of defamation. There's opinion, and then there's printing outright lies. So...not exactly a stellar journalistic record, in my opinion.
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I do not think this is about something written on a private blog several years ago.
 
   I think it is about a government that is trying to stifle public discussion.
 
  The government has the time and resources to deal with any misinformation that they feel may have been  disseminated.
 
  If this is allowed to stand it sets a poor and dangerous precedent in my opinion.
 
  Debate don’t censor, which is what I think this is tantamount to as it limits access to information and thus inhibits them from doing their job in the fullest way possible.
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