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warmodel

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Hi Don:  Again the subject of train whistles appeared in this morning's issue of the Gazette, asking to consider the removal of the noise factor and also consider moving the tracks. Consider the following:  If the whistle noise is removed, it would be replaced by gates and red signal flashing lights accompanied by a continuous DING, DING, DING until such time as the train has passed that crossing location. In regards to the latter people must also be aware of a number of factors, such as train lengths which at times is at around 12,000 feet (over 2 miles in length), also consider it is approaching a yard limit (Edmonton) and must proceed at a restricted speed for obvious reasons. I have noted at times whereby a train is stopped and occupies the road crossing, again the DING, DING, DING continues until the train again starts to move. If your residence is close to those signals, which would you prefer the whistle or the bell? Finally one has to remember which was here first, the train track (laid here in 1906) or the residences - I would think that former councils should have considered this when approving land for residential housing. Lastly Canadian National Railways is no longer a Crown Corporation but is a private commercial business with financial results being made to investors (mostly from the United States). It is now CN Rail and Canadian in name only. I would think before you see that trackage removed you will see the QE 11 sailing up the Sturgeon River.
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Well said Warmodel.  I lived close to the tracks several years ago and you just stop hearing the whistles etc. and you also forget the vibrations
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oneLalan:  An interesting aside. During my working career I spent 14 years in Jasper and during that time the C.N. had work disruptions due to strike action.  As you can imagine, no trains were moving...............no whistles blowing. One thing that was discussed during coffee breaks, was that overall we missed the whistles...............

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Cold enough out there for everyone today? [smile]
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This winter reminds me of my first winter in Alberta, 1969, the year that the journal gave out certificates to those who survived January. I recall waking every morning and, I think, Wes Montgomery on CHED would give the temperatures. It seemed the temp was below -25 the whole of January.
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That was my first winter in Alberta too, only I spent it in Grande Prairie and it was even colder there!  [biggrin]
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I was in grad school and shared a house with 4 other newbies. Christmas day I think it was blowing a blizzard and we went for a walk to see what it felt like. The walk did not last long. That winter was also my first encounter with freezing rain - very scary. 
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Well it appears as tho Moffat and the Chamber of Commerce are out and in front of the City Hall money trough looking for funds to cover an employee at the Chamber Office relative to St. Albert tourist Information. Four years ago Moffat was after the city to provide bus service from St. Albert Center to the Farmer's Market. The city picked up the tab as I understand it for the first 3 years at $12,000. per annum. Would it be asking too much for the chamber to pick up that person salary (at least until next year when I understand the contract for the use of St. Anne Street comes up for renewal and this subject could be included in the negotiations) As it has been for the past number of years the city receives no remuneration for closing that busy street - poor negotations on the part of the city, no less. The question arises, should not the city be party to the revenue that is derived from this market?

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Thanks for posting about the bike skills park notice buried in the Gazette. I hadn't seen it as I thought it would be posted under "city lights". Another example of administration trying to slip one over on residents. I think it is high time ALL St. Albert residents, no matter which area they're from, band together to try and prevent these kinds of decisions. I know some Erin Ridge residents are talking about showing support to Grandin residents in their fight to keep the bike park out of their area. Any time the city takes away parks and green space...whether it's to build a "Habitat for Humanity" (6 units only out of that whole complex!), a car wash, a regional high school, a 9-story condo complex on the old Hole's site, or a bike skills park...it diminishes everyone's environment. All St. Albert residents benefit from the green spaces, that's supposed to be why we're the "Botanical Arts" city. The irony!
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Cheesekate. Are you talking about the bike park survey? Not sure it is fair to say it was buried somewhere? I did that survey sometime ago after it was mentioned in a gazette story about the bike park and I think it has come up in letters and other articles.
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What I meant by buried in the paper was that it was in the sports section, way on page 44; not in the "city lights". I have been reading the letters by Grandin residents in the paper, and yes I did complete the survey. I think there could be better coverage of the issue by the paper, but that seems beyond the Gazette.
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Once again we had an accident on Erin Ridge drive. Yesterday afternoon right at the sight of the proposed school site someone needed to be extradited from the vehicle. Firetrucks, police and ambulance were required. At what point does council see what all Erin Ridge residents know. The traffic study done by an out of town consultant used St Albert population growth statistics for his base data (1%/year). The residents know that the real story lies in the residential growth of Oakmont, North Erin Ridge, Citadel, Costco, Sturgeon hospital and the shortcuts that Erin Ridge road and Erin Ridge drive provide to St Albert trail, the new Ray Gibbon extention to Villenuve drive and Costco. The area around Costco is proposed to be comparable to South Edmonton Common. If you don't believe me go to city hall and look at the plans. I trust we don't need another school fatality to get councils attention to this matter.
We need all residents to get involved in issues that not only affect them but other areas of St Albert. If you don't council will build structures where they are not best suited.
YOU'RE NEXT!!!!

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My son crosses Erin Ridge Drive every school day to get to and from his bus stop (right by the hospital). He has witnessed several close calls involving cars not seeing or waiting for crossing students. Now add a whole new school's worth of students into that mix, more hospital staff (Sturgeon is planning a 2-story addition with a heli-pad on top), and more drivers accessing the increased developments to the north (including a 650 student elementary school), and it is just a matter of time before there is another fatality.
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So, where are all the people who wanted to keep the live chat? This is no different than the old one. You register and post. If you were a member of the old chat, you will be admitted as quick as we can. I know it is different, but to simply not post will only kill the new option as well. Use it or lose it folks.
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ReL Bike Skills Park:  Does anyone have an idea as to exactly how many potential users of this bike skills park there are in St. Albert?  I know there are lots of kids playing baseball, hockey, and soccer but how many bike skills participants are there.  Are council willing to calculate the cost of the bike skills park on a user per capita basis and give the same amount of money for the other sports?
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Although there is already a thread started on this subject, I will respond here, but if the forum is to work to separate discussion subjects, please check before posting that there is not already a thread started.

At the council meeting where this nonsense was rightly postponed, I think the 'club' involved had about 50 potential members and there were babblings that it could rise as high as 200 some day. A pitiful small amount of kids to force the other 99.9% of us to pay for their wants, not needs. It ought not even be considered, given those paltry numbers. Too bad our spendy mayor had to save the day instead of denying it, as should be done.
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That is some wind out there, isn't it? What a mess in Forest Lawn. Garbage containers and blue bags blown over all over the place. Those garbage collectors are going to have to get off their butts and out of the trucks to upright most of the bins before they can dump them. That is unless they decide 'that ain't my job' and drive by leaving the mess for residents to clean up. No matter how many times folks go out and upright them, they tip almost immediately again in this wind. Folks who went to work this morning have no chance to upright them today either.
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We need a bike park in St. Albert. There are way more than 200 kids that will use it. Get with the times Don.
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Me, get with the times? How about you? A bike skills park is for young adults. It's for trick riding. All the people requesting this are late teens and many of them in their 20's. The youngsters already have a bike/skateboard park. They clearly stated they had less than 50 members when they appeared at council and estimated they 'might' have 200 some day. So, say they triple that number and get 600. That is still less than 1% of all taxpayers. You mean to say that type of pitiful participation should be charged to every taxpayer to support an elite few?
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Don:  I agree with you completely............where does it end, that is it seems as tho this city keeps on spending for a very select few. Consider the huge investment at Riel. Thinking back when we raised our boys, all we had here was a baseball diamond in the rough and in the winter an outdoor rink next to Sir George Simpson and later on the swimming pool in Grandin. No one even give a thought to 'blowing' money on other projects, that was our way of life. And why should seniors still have to pay for these luxuries - why not 'user pay. Itr wouldn't surprise me one day to hear where St. Albert should have an 'in-door ski run and give kids a chance at downhill racing............

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Oh BooHoo... My taxes are too high... WaaaWaaaa, Cry me a river.

A bike skills park will keep our kids active and out of trouble. It's clear as day that the benefits of the park out weigh the costs.
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Aunt Hetty:  Its obvious you are not a senior or you would not be putting forward remarks as you have.  When we raised our kids they were not getting into any trouble,  they were brought up to appreciate what they had. So suggest you show a little respect towards seniors, and not continue with the 'gimme, gimme' for more money for your expensive taste...............

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Warmodel How am I not showing seniors respect?
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@cheesekate - What did you mean when you wrote: "...whether it's to build a "Habitat for Humanity" (6 units only out of that whole complex!).."?
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