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Good to see Berr here. After a struggle with Berr's iPad, we finally got it fixed, ditto for cheesekate. Welcome both.

We are slowly rebuilding the former chat and we encourage all others who used to be active to begin posting here.

Where are you Warmodel? [biggrin]
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DARP, Yes, I believe some people warned us and now we are going to spend over a hundred million on downtown, and again, yes we were hoodwinked by those getting re elected.  Tell us one thing to get elected, and then turn on us.  And we take it.  It is really time to think about moving.  Anyone have a guess on what tax increases will be for 2015 ?  7-8%?
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This post was originally made by Warmodel in the Edmonton Airport thread. I have moved it here to Live Chat:

Hi Don:  Here is something that may be of interest:  This afternoon I took a letter envelope measuring 5 x 9 1/4 inches with 2 pieces of paper enclosed destined Germany  to the Post Office next to Soby's and was quoted a cost of $5.68 and classed as a small packet. I declined and went to the Post Office on Perron Street with the same envelope and was quoted a rate of $4.36.  With all the critiscm going fwd to the postal service, one has to see where some of the statements as mentiioned are well earned. I would wonder just how much revenue the post  office does receive on a daily basis that is not earned but has been wrongly rated. Is this a case wherebyby staff who are employed in other outlets are not sufficiently trained before dealing with thepublic?
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Merry Christmas to one and all folks, and many thanks for your participation on this site over the years. All the best in 2013 to each and every one of you!
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Don.  Mention was made a while back relative to Edmonton International A[smile]irport and whereby they were requesting passengers to arrive at least 3 hours prior to departure.  I have since talked with our oldest son Mark who is a Captain with Air Canada and he informed me that that time element is only applying to this busy Christmas period.

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Morning all, I hope everyone has a very Happy New Year. We have not gone out on this evening for many years now, but if you do, please be safe and arrange for a ride home. [wink]


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Nice to see a couple of you here tonight!
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There's a few of us stay-at-home types, I expect.  New Years Eve is a nice night for a couple cable movies, a bottle of champagne perhaps for midnight perhaps.
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Don:  Reading the article on Edmonton's 104th Street Farmers Market being selected as the 'World's Best" will more than likely bring about a lot of talk here in St. Albert. In my opinion it could possibly bring down the present executive and replace them with some 'farmers' to improve its image. [rolleyes]
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I saw this on the TV news last night at suppertime and laughed right out loud! Happy New Year! [rofl]
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Maybe  I went too far in what I stated re the St. Albert Farner's Market. After all they are the best south of the st. Albert trail, East of the river and west of Sir Winston Churchill...................[biggrin]

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Happy New Year! Unfortunately, a number of us in Erin Ridge got a late Christmas "present" from the city: a letter informing us of the city's application to rezone Eldorado field so as to move the site of the proposed Francophone school from the 2.99 acre site in the NE corner (along Eldorado Drive), to along the west side (along Erin Ridge Drive). To do this, they want to designate the whole field as Public and Private Service (PS). This is what residents have feared was the intention all along...take over the whole field, put the school wherever they want, and as big as they want. Also all along, we were told that no, the school would go where designated, stay in the 2.99 acre boundary. Now we can see we were basically lied to and misled by the mayor, council, city administration (especially the manager), school authorities, and the province. This is what Akinsdale residents had to deal with, and I'm sure what the Grandin area will have to deal with (re: the bike skills park). Deny, deny, deny...then push it through. Bonus points if you can make protesting residents look like NIMBY's. Ugh, and 4 years of this before we can go to the polls again.
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This type of behaviour is repetitive and disturbing by some members of council and administration. I watched council meetings where residents of Erin Ridge were assured time and again this would not happen. The evidence is clear on council meeting videos. Can Erin Ridge residents not take council to court to have a stop order put on this using that video evidence?

The saddest part about it all is do we have liars running this city, if the accusations are true?
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Re the Erin Ridge School subject.  I would think that a number of residents should appear at the next council meeting and ask to make a presentation re this fiasco and in particular why were the residents LIED to by CROUSE, MEMBERS of COUNCIL as well as DRAPER, the City Administrator. The actions by CROUSE do not surprise me. This is just another case of him having no regards to the situation and what it does to the residents of that area. I might add that if you do - do not be surprised if he just sits there and ignore you by doing other things such as reading, writing and whatever - this is his style.
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Re: school site. I was at a few of those council meetings and also at the traffic study meeting, and heard residents voice their concern about the possibility of the school site moving &/or expanding on the Eldorado field. I also heard plenty of assurances that the school would be going in as per the ASP. We didn't trust them then, and we were right. I'm also pretty sure that the city will try and pin the change on Alberta Infrastructure, who might turn around and cite the board and/or the traffic study and round we go. The buck won't be seen to stop anywhere. Meanwhile the traffic in the area is crazy, and only going to get worse with all the proposed residential and commercial development around Costco (touted by the editor in today's Gazette), including the Lois Hole Public School nearby. I am very scared there will be another pedestrian fatality due to the city's inability to deal effectively with the increase in traffic. They compounded it by bowing to the developer and closing Coal Mine Road.
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And just a further comment regarding the suspicious timing of all this. Crews were observed doing soil testing and drilling back in September...using maps showing the school site on the proposed new location (along Erin Ridge Drive). September! Crouse, Draper and the council at that time insisted nothing was changing. At the traffic study in early December, again Draper and the traffic people insisted nothing was changing for sure, even when residents told them about seeing the altered plans with their own eyes. Now, finally, right over the busy holiday season, the city announces their plan to move the site...something they knew about in September or likely even earlier. Maybe they're hoping we're all in drunken stupors and won't notice?
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Re:  Erin Ridge School Project
If the Erin Ridge residents plan to make another appearance before Council, is it not incumbent upon residents of other districts to also show up at Council and show our politicians that the discontent is not restricted to simply the residents of Erin Ridge ?????

We have seen a history of one District being dissatisfied with a new city development project in their district ... and the other districts of St. Albert sitting idlely by on the basis "oh well ... it doesn't directly affect me."  The result is (e.g. Aikensdale) that the upset residents get viewed as a minority and City Hall simply ploughs ahead.  Maybe it is time that it became apparent to Council that this is a concern for the whole city and that we want them to look at the alternative proposals.  Those proposals incidentally (e.g. the Badger Lands site) happen to make a lot more sense for the new school than the Erin Ridge site.
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To Scarf re: Erin Ridge school. I agree with you 100%. It seems the city has a long history of railroading different areas. Akinsdale is a more recent one, both for the Habitat for Humanity and the car wash. Before that was Heritage Lakes with the Francophone elementary school, and just recently was Lacombe Park with the bike skills park. Lacombe succeeded in defeating that, but now Grandin area is worried about the bike park. Any area that thinks if they just keep quiet and nothing will happen there, is dreaming.
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Maybe it is time that we organize a protest march.  We have enough TV personalities in St. Albert that maybe we could be lucky and have it go nationally.  After all, we want the BEST City in Canada on the National News.  Maybe if we brought enough attention to the bullying tactics it would shame Council and Administration to straighten up their act and represent the wishes of the people.  Make it known that enough is enough.  Where is our MLA on this.  I think he should also be on the hot seat.
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Re: our MLA. I read his piece in today's Gazette, where he talks about how proud he is of the new schools coming to St. Albert, and how he wants to work with the Catholic board now to get them a school. Wonder where that will go... Hot seat indeed.
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cheeskate & Joyce:  The one concern I have always had is why Draper & Crouse gave the  proposal to investigate the Badger Lands such short shrift????? .   The Badger Lands is comprised of 80 acres and has tremendous access to the north of St. Albert from which many of the future students will commute.  A school located on the Badger lands would do much to resolve the traffic problems which are of such concern to the Errin Ridge people.

I know Draper said he was "afraid" to bring up alternate sites with the Provincial Gov't in case any delay in approving the land would result in a loss of the school.  I also recollect that he suggested that it would take a very extended period of time to get the land use approvals through for the Badger lands.  However, shortly thereafter the Badger lands came back before council and there was every assurance that the water & sewer could immediately without delay be strung across the road to the Badger lands from the adjacent residential development.  Suddenly, there were no impediments to approving the Badger Lands for other purposes.

My skeptical mind forces me to contemplate this possibility.  Suppose that Draper has a clause in his employment contract that provides him with a bonus for future economic development.  Now a school on a 10 acre site would not constitute "economic" development ... and the construction of the school on the Badger lands would reduce the amount of land available for "economic development."   Hence in the end any bonus which Draper would earn for economic development would necessarily be less.  Hence that is the reason why the Badger Lands was immediatly discarded as a possible site for the new school.  Again, I stress ... this is just a theory as I have no empirical evidence to support it.  However, it is one possible explanation as to why the Badger Lands .... which would have made more planning sense .... was immediately taken off the table.
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I'm convinced there are "back room dealings" going on with the Badger Lands. It made a lot of sense as a regional school site. I know some people were hoping for some kind of swap...where the Catholic board would give it's grandfathered Oakmont school site to the Francophone board in exchange for a site in the Badger lands. I also don't know why the Riverside area was never considered. There are a number of houses already built and others under construction there, so definitely "shovel-ready", and there is ready access to Ray Gibbon Drive.
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First, thank you Don for posting my concerns about the Eldorado school site. I hope that raises some awareness. Just a quick addendum: on the notice that residents received, you can see that it was from Jim Killoh...except apparently he's away and it was signed by somebody else for him. One of my neighbours tried calling the number and was told he's away for a couple of weeks. Very rushed and suspicious timing on this document.
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Cheesekate - You maybe noticed that this is from the Provincial Government.  Maybe it is time we get Mr. Khan involved.  Maybe the province can do it's own traffic study and come up with a solution to that problem for us. 
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Joyce: Mr. Khan is aware of the situation. He was contacted several times by different residents and by the Erin Ridge Residents Action Committee (ERRAC) voicing their concerns; as was our other MLA, the Education Minister, Alberta Infrastructure, the Premier's office, the opposition parties, etc. Keep in mind that this is an Alberta Government project, and he's a member of the same government. It seems the government (local and provincial) is determined to see this project through, and equally determined not to look at any alternate sites.
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