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Swallow1

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RE: Coun Prefontaine - Isn't Canada already bilingual?  Or, could he be looking for a PQ type of "bilingual" within our city boundaries?  

What I'd like to know is who put a bug in Coun Prefontaine's ear about bilingualism in the first place. It wasn't me - or anyone I know who was beating on his door making this request.  Perhaps if he could point to our Census and say that 56% of this city considers French to be their first language, maybe he'd have a leg to stand on. 

Furthermore, if he wants to raise this banner, he should probably find out just how much it'll cost us, in terms of education (not every city employee is bilingual), signage, police to patrol for errant English usage, etc, etc....  

Then again, could this all be a ruse devised by other members of council, with the hope that we'll become so galvanized on bilingualism that more contentious issues will slip through with little public scrutiny?
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@Swallow - Prefontaine's request DID result in the city manager being directed to report back to council on how administration would handle such a move and how much it would cost local taxpayers. It's idiocy at its finest.
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@Don - Let's just hope the City Manager will consider ALL COSTS and be totally up front about them.
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Once the city gets yesterday's video of the council meeting online, I will try and edit the clip where Prefontaine makes the request and then post it here for those who think it might have been an April Fools prank. [biggrin]
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When we first came to Alberta, in 1966, part of the reason we settled in St.Albert is that it was supposed to be a French community. My son spoke mostly French. When he started school, I found out that French was not spoken or taught at school. So when I attended a parent/teacher assembly I got up and volunteered  to come in at lunch time and teach basic conversational French. I got promptly booed by the entire assembly and was told that St.Albert did not need any more Frogs but another hockey arena. I walked out.

[smile]Years later, I was invited to come and volunteer to teach French. I said no sorry, I am busy right now but there are a lot of French teachers who would probably be happy to get a job! 
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St. Albert needs more french schools.
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Yup, this must be a case of "keep em busy with nonsense so we can push the agenda on much more contentious issues"  

I'm still wondering months later how some on council managed to get themselves elected.  
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Sweet Lou.  I think you meant how some were re-elected as well. Then we have Draper, who I look as a trail blazer.  Picture him blazing a trail being run out of town with Crouse right behind him (I only wish)
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Just seen on the Gazette's website: a large article on last night's embarrassment of a "public hearing" on the Eldorado school issue. And down near the bottom...Crouse saying he " would have to address the accusations and innuendo that city staff have been lying." " 'If it continues I've got to address it', Crouse said, noting if someone has proof of lying he'd like to see it brought forward." Okay, there's the challenge out there to everyone in Erin Ridge, Akinsdale, Grandin and Lacombe (bike skills park) and wherever else Crouse's projects have been rammed through to contact the paper. Come on people, here's the golden opportunity!
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@cheesekate RE: Crouse and proof of lies - C'mon, here's a guy who can walk into a public venue and call someone a "C-U-Next Tuesday" and his followers will call every last person who heard it a bald faced liar.  

How about what he told his buddies on the CRB: 

RE: Arlington Drive - The Gazette on Oct 6, 2012
180 local leaders, developers and administrators this week in Leduc as host of the second-annual Re-Envision Housing Symposium organized by the Capital Region Board, and talked about his city’s experience with Aurora Place.

“There was booing and hissing,” he recalled, and they had to have police present to keep order. A few councillors probably lost their seats because of the development.


What a Hero he is for risking his own personal safety and still managing to ram such a project down our throats!

But wait - when a resident emailed him regarding concerns over that same police presence, he responded: 
 
"As far as security is concerned, if you are referring to the RCMP within the chambers, it is very very common for our RCMP inspector to come to council meetings where there is a lot of controversy on a matter. My guess is that he comes to ever 3-4 meetings if not more." Mayor Crouse, Feb 21, 2010


"Mayor criticizes Henday noise study (Freeway noise not excessive, provincial study concludes)" November 10, 2012
"A noise study describing average decibel levels from Anthony Henday Drive as within the province’s guidelines isn’t sitting well with Mayor Nolan Crouse,..." 
AND: 
Trying to get the province to change its noise standards is not something the city can do...“It would be a huge undertaking and it’s not something one mayor of one municipality can do.” 
BUT THEN:
Closer to Home on Oct 31, 2012 (Couple loses protective buffer against St. Albert Trail)
We couldn't do noise testing during the winter - because we all know what happens in the winter - SOUNDS ECHO & when issues relating to noise pollution occur in on his own home turf, our illustrious Mayor (the one who thinks nothing of going to court to fight a losing battle over a smoke shop) still claims there's nothing he can do?
YET:
A letter to the Editor rightfully pointed out: "As chair of the Capital Region Board, which represents at least a quarter of the entire population of Alberta, Crouse could bring influence to bear in changing provincial noise standards, a challenge he has apparently chosen not to undertake."

Let's also not forget that this is a guy who, if he had to base his mayoral win on votes from Akinsdale, Erin Ridge, Erin Ridge North, Kingswood and Pineview he would now be the hardest working Mayor Wannabe and telling anyone who might listen about the good old days when people were just like sheep...

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The mayor is as dishonest as he is ornery. Since the last election has anyone else noticed how cantankerous the man is?  Seems like he has a score to settle with the people of SA for not overwhelmingly voting for his perforated platform.  Hey mayor I would take amalgamation (which I do NOT support) any day of the week if it is an alternative to having Nolan Crouse as mayor.
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SweetLou:

Crouse in my opinion (and shared by many others) You can't trust him, you can't believe him - and to think St. Albert has to put up with his actions for another 3 3/4 years.  I often wonder if it was his attitude as well as his superioristic  way (in his own mind) that had him leave the north country and all three of those General Managers positions or was he run out of town? He has shown that he has very little concern for those who question his actions in particular when it comes to finances. If you notice during council meetings, that if he does not like what he is hearing that he starts to shuffle paper and writing, etc. One of these days someone is going to take him to task and question why the presentation that  is being made is being ignored.
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War: Trying to reason with Crouse is like trying to play blackjack with a donkey. I've seen him moving papers around his throne many times while residents are addressing council.  My belief is their address is directed more toward garnering support from others in attendance and some of the more open minded councillors.  

Crouse probably does this to signal his supporters to ignore what is being said in the address, and like sheep following little bo peep they follow him into oblivion.  I wonder if these councillors understand the concept of being on council; if they always just "go with the flow" they are redundant and useless.
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Did you see the dressing down the Gazette gave MacKay and Hughes today?

http://www.stalbertgazette.com/article/20140129/SAG0902/301299963/-1/sag09/no-room-for-bush-league-politics

It goes to show you that the city ad budget can buy the Gazette's side every time. [wink]
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Forum Host:  Re the words as put forward by the 'local rag - The Gazette' its words were uncalled for, as both Hughes and McKay were carrying out the actions as what would be expected from a reliable councilor as well as the 'Mayor' but not in this Utopia - the other 5 just sat on their hands. Pathetic to say the least. Hopefully the next time around we will have more like-minded people similar to Hughes an McKay occupying those other seats - and the first thing they look at is cutting out some advertising dollars......it could happen. As far as the Gazette goes, all its used for here is to use as packing in boxes. 
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Forum Host:  Justy  thought.  I wonder if the Gazette had CROUSE proof read the sarcastic writing before it was placed in the paper................
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@warmodel RE: Proofreading - Proofread?  He probably wrote it!
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Anyone catch Global News last night? The Erin Ridge/school issue was featured. If ANYONE cares about that park or about how the city can just rezone park space, please attend tonight's "public forum" at King of King's Lutheran Church (7pm).
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By the way, apparently this exact same situation happened in Red Deer in 2012. The Francophone board wanted to build a k-12 school in an established neighbourhood on a small space that was zoned for park and elementary/junior high. The province was trying to push through rezoning to take more space. The residents rallied and fought. The province threatened that this would deny the Francophones from getting a school. Sound familiar so far? Here's where the story diverges: the Red Deer council grew a backbone and voted against the motion to rezone and offered a smack down to the province: "The province has managed to assert themselves and disrupt what would normally happen in our community (which is) careful consultation and planning". And in the end, a new site was found, construction began 12 months later and the Francophones got their (bigger!) school on a bigger lot, and the other site remained as it was. Happy ending. Too bad our own council doesn't have those kind of balls. Makes me jealous of Red Deer.
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Oh, and Red Deer had a newspaper that would actually, you know, investigate and write their own articles, instead of letting the mayor call the shots and dictate the editorials.
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I was taken aback by the comments the editor of the Gazette made about Cam and Sheena.  How do say that two council members who were two of the top three vote getters are "bush league"?  The papers in this town are sellouts.  Of course they don't want to make administration mad and want to get them on their side.  It gets them more advertising.  Just think, if the paper didn't get any advertising dollars from the city, would they survive in St. Albert?
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Hey everyone  -  Did you know that CROUSE and the GAZETTE have one thing in common  -  and that is they can't count. Example, if you recall CROUSE supposedly  the chair of the CRB and during the discussions re the vote on the $25 million dollar funding counted seven against - it was brought to his attention that in fact 8 against, a count he ignored. Fast forward to last nites GAZETTE and in particular the topic was referring to a 'committe of the whole council' as stated by CROUSE. I have had the impression that council consisted of seven members - at the top of the page five pictures appear, McKay and Hughes not among them. Time and time again this 'rag' shows its true colours. One would think a local newspaper would not pick sides - well that does not apply here.
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Reading the gaz is kinda like watching a slow moving train come off its tracks and slam into an oil refinery - you realize the horror that is imminent but you can't look away.  The tabloid that is the gazette is nothing more than a city run propaganda machine.  

Anyone know who actually wrote that trash?
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Stu Salkeld
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Breaking news from Eldorado: swat police break into a house on Eldorado (you know...across from the future Francophone school) as part of some drug &/or organized crime investigation. I'm sure the mayor is less than pleased with all this publicity.
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